• Sheila
  November 10, 2020, 5:58 pm

  Nice. Very styling inside.

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• Michael
  November 10, 2020, 9:40 pm

  Nice, but no bathroom and that’s beside the price tag a no go for me. Other conversion are showing that it’s possible to accommodate al least a wet bathroom.

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  • James D.
    November 11, 2020, 2:01 am

    When you need to have an actual garage inside, then not so much space left for a wet bath and still have a living space… Most other conversions don’t try to be a toy hauler, and there are always trade offs…

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    • Michael
      November 11, 2020, 6:36 am

      James, this one has a bicycle garage and a small bathroom.
      https://tinyhousetalk.com/van-bumper-stand-up-desk/
      It shows that it is possible even with more headroom above the bed.

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      • James D.
        November 11, 2020, 4:20 pm

        Something to understand about that comparison is that 2 bicycles don’t take up as much space as 3 motor bikes, especially as the three have to keep their front wheels straight and not folded like the other van has the bicycles, and the ramp, rails, etc. that also take up length space that can’t just be shoved in a corner like the other’s gear. So they’re not equivalent garages and needing a bigger garage has its cost as it limits what space you have left to use for anything else.

        Vans are also not all the same length, a Transit ranges from a length of 18′ 4″ to 22′ 2″, with a wheel base of 130″ to 148″… The Extended Body of this one is midsize at 19′ 8″ but that only allows an interior length of 124″ (10′ 4″)…

        Versus the Long Body that’s 22′ 2″ long and has an interior usable length of 154″ (12′ 10″)… Among other differences like payload capacity that would be effected by what you would store in the garage and how much capacity that leaves you for everything else that also has to be in the Van… Like the larger water tanks that you would need to use the wet bath, for example… Mind, those motor bikes also weigh a lot more than those bicycles and there’s three of them, and that’s not even factoring tools for maintaining them, extra fuel, etc.

        While those are just the significant differences, there will often be multiple variables that will effect what is possible based on what has to fit and what the vehicle can handle but if you need to fit anything significantly large into a van then that will quickly eat up your available space and force compromises, as there are always trade offs when dealing with limited space and trying to fit as much as possible into it…

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• Michael
  November 11, 2020, 10:00 pm

  I am aware about differences because I built several. The old fashioned type of vans have been wider than the uniform Sprinter type of today with their identical width, vary on length and height only.
  For weekend trips and young folks it might be sufficient for me its not. A box van is the better option and easier to build the interior without curves and all the insulation and condensation problems of a metal body. Even when you keep them at let’s say 7 ft wide you can sleep across driving direction which is difficult for taller people in a modern standard van.
  Another issue are labor cost, that’s why price tag of this one here is so high that not many people can afford it.

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  • James D.
    November 11, 2020, 10:59 pm

    Yes, a box van would be much larger than a van and thus can have a more flexible floor plan but there’s trade offs going that route too, like less ease of mobility and harder to find spots you can park, needing steps to get in and out, less comfortable while driving, etc… There are reasons people can prefer a van despite its more limited space…

    Again, everything has trade offs… While, if we’re listing alternatives then good to include Step Vans, and Class C’s… Class C’s, especially, can bridge the gap between Class B Vans and Class A buses. So can scale from about the size of a van to overlapping the size of a Class A on the smaller sizes.

    Along with what kind of modifications are done to the vehicle. Like some may enhance the capability of the vehicle to add the ability to travel over rough terrain, or even float like a boat, to be able to travel nearly anywhere… Or to increase towing capacity so instead of having a garage inside they can simply tow another trailer that can perform the function of toy hauling.

    Costs will of course be the universal trade off that will be limited by budget but unless you’re vehicle is a TARDIS, the size of the vehicle will limit what you can fit in it and whether that will force compromise on other things… So less about what’s possible but what trade offs you’re willing to accept, based on your priorities…

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