• suzanne
  July 3, 2023, 2:50 pm

  no way that is worth that much money.

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  • James D.
    July 4, 2023, 2:43 am

    It was to the buyer, it has a lot of details that don’t come cheap, but that just doesn’t mean it has to be worth it to you…

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• April K Hunter
  August 7, 2024, 11:02 pm

  This is beautiful, but the point of tiny homes is to be AFFORDABLE.
  I bought a smaller 2/2 house in Tampa Bay (Safety Harbor, a high end area) with a fenced in yard, bungalow deck, w/d, etc for less than they’re asking here.
  This has gotten out of hand. TH used to be $19,000. Simpler living, affordability.
  That was the appeal!

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  • James D.
    August 9, 2024, 1:03 pm

    That’s actually a misconception because affordability is relative and people won’t all have the same needs, preferences, and situations. So, the prices will always depend on those variables and it was never limited to just one price range.

    Understand, absolutely everything involves compromises and trade offs and deal with far more factors than just space and purchase price.

    What works for you doesn’t mean it will work for someone else and vice versa. Like long term costs can matter a lot more as they can add up to multiple times the purchase price. Add, people can also care about other things like whether the home meets their needs, is healthy to live in, allows them to have the lifestyle they want, etc. Since, the as appeal of any home is what the owner ultimately gets out of it…

    So, it’s just more complex and only the individual owner can determine whether or not it is the best choice or not. Things like a custom built home can be the only way for some people to acheive their goals but just because others don’t doesn’t mean the cost difference isn’t completely worth it to those it is intended for… People just don’t need to all do it the same and prices will vary by choices, locations, and situations.

    For example, a 2br apartment in Manhattan can cost over a million… Just to show a lot more than just size effects the price…

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    • April K Hunter
      August 9, 2024, 8:41 pm

      True. You’re not wrong. And as I mentioned, it’s a stunning TH. Very livable.
      But the movement was created for simple living and affordability…and that’s not affordable for most people. Getting financed on that would run the cost of a regular mortgage…and that’s before putting it somewhere.
      Might as well find a small villa and 2/2 home for most. And one certainly could not have that in NYC unless one “knows somebody” so that’s not exactly an apples to apples comparison.

      It’s beautiful. I’m sure it’s perfect for SOMEONE. But it’s posted on a site where many of us have been regulars for well over a decade and we’ve seen what this movement was supposed to be, what it was meant to be…and what others have turned it into.
      This house is the latter.

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      • James D.
        August 10, 2024, 2:17 am

        No, again, that’s a misconception. There were always higher cost tiny homes from the very start. While there are still lower cost tiny homes now. There’s just more people involved now and the reasons for the prices aren’t so simple.

        Like already mentioned, affordability is relative. It’s not something that is based on just one thing like the purchase price.

        First, costs are not so simple because of variables like a less costly home can be a money pit and end up costing far more than a more expensive home. There’s both up front costs and long term costs to consider with any purchase, and someone can ruin their life by ignoring the long term costs.

        For example, that’s one of the many reasons we had a housing bubble crash because too many people just assumed they could afford the home if they could just cover the purchase price, or at least the down payment, but completely underestimated the long term costs.

        It wasn’t just because of mortgages, which when properly used can allow people to escape worse situations like being forced to pay expensive rent, that eats up the majority of their income, instead of owning a home and eventually being able to pay next to nothing once they pay off the debt and own it outright. Too many people just misuse it and basically don’t understand how to properly manage their finances, which would be a problem regardless of whether or not someone deals with a mortgage or not.

        Second, things like location are going to effect the costs. This was the point of the NY example given, as even the exact same home can have a very different cost with just a difference in location.

        People will usually have more income in high cost areas but with higher costs they are basically in the same situation as people who live in lower costs areas but also make lower income and is thus one of the reasons affordability is relative as it’s not the same everywhere. There’s no apples to apples comparison unless you account for such differences!

        Location also matters for many other reasons like how it effects lifestyle, access to resources, proximity to friends and family, whether it’s a good or bad area to live, climate, etc. So, there’s far more than just how much space the home has to consider for what is actually being paid for and what isn’t…

        Third, the point of a home is what people get out of it and that never changed for tiny homes. It only meant that people focus on what matters to them and eliminate what doesn’t. It’s just something to understand that people are too diverse for that to ever be held to a universal standard as the same home won’t work equally well for everyone, in every situation.

        Understand, it was never the point for people to suffer just to own a home, tiny homes ultimately had to be homes and serve the needs of the owners. Something that has been true throughout history, as tiny homes have existed for most of human history. So there will always be differences in the homes and the costs involved, and that has always been the case with tiny homes.

        Some people just focused on the lower cost homes but ignored what was actually required to achieve those lower costs. Like, many of them were DIY built but most people can’t DIY build their own home. Not everyone can be in a situation where they can take time, use reclaimed materials, and have the ability and skills needed to do it all on their own. Nor can everyone just wait for properties to depreciate and become more affordable over time, or can choose to live just anywhere.

        Also, not everyone can live alone, accept compromises like sleeping in a loft instead of a bedroom, not worry about how the house is built or how long it will last, not be concerned about how energy efficient the home is, not consider all their needs, etc.

        So, the idea that tiny homes are only meant to be at a set price range was a fallacy from the very start. Costs will always be determined by variables like what it takes to actually meet the owner’s needs, time and location it is done, the owner’s situation, etc.

        Sure, lower cost is always preferable but not to the point it causes people to suffer to achieve it. A lot of it comes down to choice and people all choose for themselves where that threshold will end up being…

        Like it’s more cost effective and efficient to pay more for a home designed for a family than multiple separate homes for multiple people. It never made sense to think of all tiny homes to be at a set price range as that doesn’t take into account every possible living situation and what is actually cost effective in those given situations.

        Also, understand, everyone has a choice. Just because some people get more expensive homes doesn’t mean everyone has to and ultimately, that’s the real point to tiny homes… Making a choice and taking control of your life! The outcome is what people make of it and it doesn’t matter if everyone does it differently because people are different and will be in different situations. It’s not a competition!

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