I’m excited to let you know about this new up and coming 11 acre tiny house community called Lemon Cove Village in Lemon Cove, California opening January 1st, 2015.
The community consists of 55 tiny house ONLY spaces. This means ONLY tiny houses (no traditional RVs). It’s near Sequoia National Park.
Right now rates are listed at $450 to $595 per month depending on the spot. There’s going to be a pool, covered patio, outdoor showers, a coin operated laundry room, community kitchen, high speed internet, storage sheds, a garden area, and more.
This is VERY exciting news and I can’t wait to see more communities like this pop up throughout the rest of the world. It’s happening!
Lemon Cove Village Tiny House Community in Lemon Cove, CA
Images © Lemon Cove Village
Images © Lemon Cove Village
There’s an open house this Friday, November 23, where you can meet B.A. Norrgard (pictured above) who is the consultant helping to make this community a reality. Sign up to go right here.
This seems like a great opportunity to live tiny legally and peacefully. What do you think?
As for as location goes, the address is 32075 Sierra Dr, Lemon Cove, CA 93244 if you’d like to Google Map it. Nearby towns include
- and Porterville.
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$450-595/mo.? *Plus* $100/mo. “common area” fee? In a state whose drought conditions are dreadful and getting worse? Somehow, this doesn’t seem to fit the ethos of the whole tiny house movement, unless you’re a trust-fund baby doing it cuz it’s “what all the cool kids are doing now”.
I know this part of California very well and you are correct. The space rent is way too high for this area of mostly agriculture. Visalia is a good minutes away, but is a very nice city. The other direction is Three Rivers, a small tourist town. I am a full time RVer, so I am familiar with the tiny house movement, but I would never pay that kind of rent. It is better to work for your space (no rent) and then move on to the next spot. Not for everyone, but works for me.
Well $450-$550 for rent is WAY less than rent in any city in California! There is no $100 common area fee. There are plenty of blue collar workers along with trust fund babies who believe in the values of community and living minimal. This is the ethos of the tiny house movement. Thank you.
The area and the main building kinda look like an old KOA Campground. Yes/No?
You are correct, this is an old KOA campground that was abandoned and very run down. Glad someone fixed it up.
YES! More construction gets worked on everyday! This week we are putting in new electric and water pipes. The pool is getting retiled and painted. Today the dog park is finished! We are also making organic gardening plots for renters!
Thanks for the updates Iska!
$550 to 695 a month! That’s a house payment.
I’d like to update everyone about Lemon Cove! There is no common room fee. $450-$550 is reasonable rent for alternative housing, especially since it includes a swimming pool and internet. These spaces are for alternative, sustainable, community living and vacation spaces. For anyone with a yurt, tiny house, geodesic dome, vintage trailers, all the things that regular RV places won’t allow. If you want to pay $300 for a manufactured home, you all are correct, this is not the space for you 🙂 But if you are eco-friendly, creative and minimal, this place is waiting for you! Cheers!
wish i was nearby so i could take a peek–love this little house!
Ouch! Kinda pricey lot rent. I know someone who rents a lot for $300.00 a month with no upkeep. People there do their own upkeep and you HAVE to keep it looking nice; otherwise you’re kicked out.
From all the said comments i have gathered I seem to have a better deal on grid at this point. However social pressures and being the way that goes.
I live In Albuquerque at a highly bland and overly priced apartment complex myself.
However I have kept up an end less search and found out that a certain hotel for 500 flat with out the extra costs is rare but I did manage to locate such a place. Long term wise I will be saving for my own land to do as i will with. I would base it out side of the city i live in and form my own small – tiny home community wheels would be optional but not the rule.
My fee for renting would be 300 per space however all water and so on and waste would be the issue of the renter to deal with.
The ABQ can get a bit pricey in some aspects. As goes with any part of America. I like to lone wolf the land on my own terms and make it into something that is not egg shell or dry wall. Both bore me to endless tears and represent what is wrong with on grid living.
Where as California is concerned for myself I say pass the idea is sound but after all California is called that for a reason.
Not in California. In California you can’t live anywhere for this amount. My friend is renting a room in the Bay Area for $690/mo.
I have seen similar RV parks in nicer areas (Chico, Ca) rent for about $300/month. Yes, the Bay area is expensive where I pay $500 to rent a very large backyard for my RV. RV parks in the Bay Area can rent for $850-$1300 just for the spot but Lemon Cove is not in a desirable area. I think $300-$400 might be a reasonable price if you were renting-to-own on a 15 year mortgage plus maybe $50/mth in HOA fees. Otherwise, this is just another example of the failure of housing policy; corporate real estate trusts and hedge funds have been buying up RV/Mobile Parks across the country because of several good reasons: (1) the economy is forcing people to look downmarket in an attempt to gain housing security, (2) here come the baby-boomers retiring in droves, (3) new permits for these parks are nearly non-existent so competition is fierce, (4) as an investor, where else can you get a minimum return on investment of 11% while owning an appreciating asset (land) and those “suckers who rent” actually own the depreciating asset (the tiny house). If you’ve ever heard the expression- “Rent is Slavery”… this is exactly why.
Now, if this were a owner-occupied CO-OP with equity… it would be a good idea whose time has come.
I’m at a loss can not affords to live in my mobile in Rancho Mirage.I need a place that is around the price your friend has I love gardening. Please if you could be so kind to tell me where your friend lives. I need some help ASAP. Jerry and PUP PUP.
Charging California prices. Too expensive, as usual, for people on limited income. Not worth the price. I’ll pass. Besides, it’s too far north.
Too rich for my budget but it may be just the thing for some. The ideal situation would be some kind of network of tiny house communities with both long and short term areas.
Although it’s a “tiny house” village, it’s a mobile home park. The pricing is quite high and although the developer has split out the EXTRA common area fee of $100, it’s still rent you must pay. So that’s $550-$695 (No, $700 really, let’s not quibble with the $.99 crowd)
I’ve no idea why developers practice splitting out costs except to dup those who can’t add. Bottom line is that this is an HOA fee on land you do not own and that you must pay in order to rent. AND, trust me here, it will only go up as time moves on and maintenance arises OR there will be no maintenance. Been there; was the President of that.
Bottom line is you pull-up next to another tiny house to participate in the suburbs at the price of living in a small city apt. in a good many places here in the USA. Except for the fact that the development caters to tiny homes, there’s not much to recommend any real cultural change here–antithetical to the movement, or at least what I’ve read and understood tiny home people want out of life. There is no privacy, that’s for sure. You are stacked on one another so you could stick your arm out the window and touch your neighbor’s home–just like the suburbs without a garden plot or a play area for your dog.
Profit is king, no matter what it’s being called this week. (Quantitative Easing sounds good too, huh? It means we will print more fiat currency without assets to backup the printed bills leading to more debt that cannot be repaid, ever.)
Everything Elle said. What is the point if it is just an RV park and not a cheap one at that? I don’t get it. I love tiny houses but I don’t want to be crammed into a small space with a bunch of other people and with no financial benefit over an RV park.
I agree with other comments here…too much money for a lot rent! Now, if the entire house was included in the rent, you might have something there. Still, most people are going tiny to SAVE money. I’m looking at building my tiny house on my own 1 acre lot for less than that.
If this was in San Diego or San Francisco, yeah it would be a bargain. But not in rural California near little in the way of jobs or services. For that kind of money people have LOTS of housing options. Look on Craigslist; there’s hundreds of shared housing situations in any town you want where people need to rent out rooms to pay their mortgage; often with the utilities included for these kind of bucks, and a pool, gym, etc available. Sure you’re sharing and may only have a 100 to 200 sf room to call your ‘own’ but you still have the run of the house, kitchen, laundry, etc and with the right group, you have a family of friends to socialize with. I can imagine being able to arrange a parking spot in a private backyard for a lot less than this. In fact, this kind of money will BUY YOU THE LAND.
A great idea that we’ve all talked about: someone finally went to a lot of expense and planning to do it, and now everyone can’t wait to smash it to pieces from every direction.
$450 a month is very reasonable in California and the west coast. If the TH is paid for, where else in California could you come close to that price? Another $100 is chump change for all the amenities exclusive to the needs of TH dwellers, like storage and community kitchen and gardens (!) and internet. Think of the parties! Further, this is not a lot in Mom’s back yard. From the pictures, it’s a very pretty setting with great views.
Yes, you may define it as a mobile home park, Elle, perhaps you are new to THs and were unaware that 99% of the tiny homes do have wheels? 🙂 ( It has a lot to do with code, as opposed to actual nonstop traveling.)
Not everyone in THs want to live in the woods or country. The young set still need access to jobs and decent roads, and may not be ready to spend the summer mowing 20 acres.
I think it’s a great idea that like-minded individuals can hang out together. Retirees and old hippies gravitate to places where the artsy young live. You rarely get that sense of community in today’s subdivisions or condos.
I sincerely wish this place the best, and hope the youngsters keep the ideas fresh and open-minded.
True a great “Idea”. I doubt very seriously the concept at that location and price can be realized. As the statements above indicate there are too many obstacles to overcome to be cost effective for any but the most affluent. It will probably fill up as there are no “Like’ communities in this area. But for sure a new approach will have to be found and VERY swiftly if the poor and lower middle class are to live here in Amerikoch.
No, not new to THs and do not appreciate the “dis” or your personal attack on my believed age, my knowledge and experience of housing/codes, my believed interests or my intelligence in writing a straight forward opinion without the vitriol I fnd in yours–especially on such an agreeable, enjoyable site as this one. (the smile does not negate your words.)
Read the comments–No one is “tearing it apart”. The agreeable majority concur that the pricing for the area given by those who live there and the access ‘young’ people have to jobs from the park (sans remote computing) are out of line with the impression given of a good deal where a TH community could be build in earnest. Pricing across the USA for various housing and mobile stay parks is noted by several. For a short stay the ‘planned’ amenities are quite nice. For the long term TH living location proposed and the concept of building a community inside the culture of TH thinkers/DIYer, the price is high and the lots are spaced too closely.
My apologies to the rest of you for this exchange. Under the circumstances I felt it necessary to stand up.
I love the idea of tiny living, but for the most part, where to park the darn thing puts the kabosh on most plans. I imagine what you’re providing will be nice, and clearly you’re providing amenities and parking that’s hard for tiny house owners to find, but I find the rent and HOA fee to be really high, along with the fact the fees will most likely climb each year – the same reason people are downsizing – to get away from such high payments. Coupled with the cost of the tiny house, I can stay in my 1600 sq foot condo with all the public community amenities and the endless rules that come with both these types of communities for about the same price – and grow equity. Plus managing a community with a myriad of personalities isn’t going to be a piece of cake, either. I want to get away from all that as well as someone telling me I can only have 1.2 dogs or saying they don’t like the color of my blinds – endless things to pick at. Don’t get me wrong, I’m sure it will be nice, it’s just not what I think of when I think of trading it all in for a simpler and cheaper lifestyle. I wish you the best of luck with it, truly.
Since I used to live in this area I can say that the lot price is pricey. This is the foothill area of the San Joaquin Valley and it is hot and not near any good shopping areas…Visalia would be the best bet for good supermarkets, etc. A reasonable price for this type of thing, in my opinion, would be from about $300 to $400 with no more than $50 for shared upkeep…usually a park takes that in consideration in your rent, anyway. It is nice to cater to TH and they do have an investment in sewer/septic, water lines, etc. but I’m not sure this will fly. Take into consideration the people that usually build/buy a TH…less expense than most motor homes; more tailored to an independent lifestyle; and, usually, a desire for privacy…so this doesn’t seem to cater to that group.
Thanks, Bonnie, I enjoyed your input based on your familiarity with the area. I spent time working in various parts of LA, and was staggered by the home and rental prices. Our schedule did not permit venturing into central CA. If the site rent in this area is too high, per your experience, is it possible they are attempting to attract THers who are more secure and stable??? If they priced it too low, would it attract the experimenters, who have more enthusiasm than cash?
If this were my place, with only 55 spaces and a major investment in the development, I would have a serious screening process in place. I would love to visit out there to see how they are managing the zoning and restrictions and California law.
“THers who are more secure and stable”? I think the majority who get into THs are not swimming in a pool of money like Uncle Scrooge. Also “serious screening processes” don’t really tell you who will pay their rent and who will not. A person’s income doesn’t give give a measure of their responsibility. It also doesn’t tell you if they will get sick, injured, or loose their job.
Billy, I believe you are correct about THers and income, which is why I would screen. I didn’t mean solely screening income. I meant their job history (12 jobs in a year versus one or two), their location history (17 addresses in one year?) and other factors.
I used to have rental property, and seemed to attract families with sob stories (some people love to play the kid card) or engaging bohemian types. Without fail, not being firm about the rent because of sick kids or lost jobs left me with 6 months rent owed and a trashed house courtesy of the tenants I tried to help.
Sorry if you took offense to my phrasing, but I’ve learned the hard way about “being nice” in real estate to irresponsible people.
Very disappointed that someone wants to “get rich” off the tiny home concept!! Ugh. These were to benefit ppl that don’t want to get strapped with high mortgage. The price is to high for the “tiny”. This is a glorified trailer park. Sorry, I think it is shameful.
I stopped renting because I was tired of throwing away a similar amount of money each month on something that would never be mine. Allowing you own your own lot would make this a better idea. At those prices you might as well buy your own land and have something to show for your money.
This little house community does not work for me. This is a trailer park. Why live on a trailer park, when you can buy your own land, you don’t need much. Then you can have a food garden, a big one. Who needs to buy veggies. When you rent you are just throwing that money out the window.
This looks like a huge money trap to me. At these prices you can rent a big place closer to amenities. It doesn’t look like this includes sewage unless that’s included in the common. I’m building small to avoid this type of payment. Better to save for an acre somewhere.
Lets face it. It is a mobile home park and that is the only place where you can legally live in a tiny house. Buying land does not mean you can live in a tiny house on the property. There are building codes. So if you want your own land with a tiny house you have to know the building codes first. Now I live in Florida and there are co-ops for 55 and older,lot cost 19,000.00 to buy in the co-op and you own that lot. There is a monthly fee of 206.00. that covers water,sewer,trash.lawn maintance,property taxes.
Codes (when they exist) vary all over the place depending on where you live. Also being on wheels and mobile (or at least appearing to be, hee) lets you skirt codes in some places. There are other ways to deal with that problem as well, and lots of other options besides $550-$700 rent or a $19,000 lot.
Where in FL is the co-op over 55 to buy the land for $19,000 and put a tiny house on it?
To high rent, for that amount I would rather invest in a monthly plan and purchase my own land and by the way that’s what I did, for 2.3o ac, I will be able to pay it off within 2 years time, and I can have my up coming TH on my Land, and not have to live in the desert……..
The price of the space defeats the whole purpose of downsizing to tiny home. You can buy a home and land w/ payments cheaper than that!
If you buy a $30k lot, and add $10k in expenses, and pay it off in 5 years, your payments would be just over $700 a month. In what world does this “park” model make sense. Personally, I think it is counter to the entire tiny-house concept.
It does sound too expensive, but it is California. Land is expensive. I assume they’re saying that these “tiny houses” need to be 399sf or less, in line with the RV standard (A119.5)? I actually would love to see a concept community like this take off, but with co-op or condo plan regarding land ownership rather than paying inflated rental rates like this.
Even though there are a lot of negative comments here, Alex, please continue to post this kind of information as it’s really informative to know any new developments that could work for some people. Thanks.
Alex I too love your attention to the needs of the Small Home Movement. I feel this planned community is probably a refitted KOA or some other type park…And reworking for use again could not happen at a better time. I am assuming it can cater to any RV qualified size like Keith G. stated? If so I have a lot of designs at 4Fathoms Designs that would work really well in this part of the country if we could find a manufacturer willing to fill the void the Paradigm shift has caused. A home for $25K is my goal.
This arrangement isn’t obviously for everybody. It’s for people who want to live in this area of California who want to be near other like minded tiny house people in a community setting. And of course for people who are happy to pay the asking rent versus renting a larger, more expensive, apartment/condo/house as an alternative. That being said, I appreciate all of your thoughts and I personally appreciate the people who are working hard to make this community a reality since it costs a lot of money and takes a lot of commitment to make it happen. It’s a great start in my view. And I’m sure we’ll see more affordable options in more affordable places in the near future. Let’s appreciate this one too.
Almost a good idea .. if they were to sell the spaces to the tinly house owners and , truly make it a community .. then they might well have something .. keep the pool and build a very small community center with a large community garden. larger lots not tiny ones and make it sustainable for the long term . this is no more than a trailer park..
sorry swing and a miss..
DUANE>>>>>>>TN here as well near Normandy lake in Manchester tn. There is a 22. Acre or there about available at normandy lake. Would make a wonderful tiny community. Sure would like to gather those interested in lifestyle of simplicity an hopeful likeminds to consider such as venture. Have spoken to political about other endeavors ,,, veteran and the like, would like to see mine as well as others dreams manifest. Who’s interested???????????
I am! This is something I’ve long pondered, researched and planned. I love, LOVE the idea of TH-ers and those of like-mind gathering together to commune and utilize each other’s skills, talents and resources. The concept of “renting”… of throwing away hard-earned money with no promise of return (as many have stated above) is Old School… passé…or, even worse, status quo! We’re over that! But if we can, somehow, pool our finances and each buy a small chunk, then we’re more inclined to sacrifice some income. I’m not familiar with Normandy Lake specifically but have looked for land in and around TN (NC, GA, SC – around the Blue Ridge specifically) and just adore that part of our country.
Have you looked into the zoning restrictions for that area? It’s not generally too easy to find plots where such a community would be permitted. But if you find that it’s possible, I can definitely help you with the next steps. How can we connect?
Alex, even though this specific iteration of a tiny house community isn’t for me (as I said in my comment), thanks for putting the piece up. I visit Tiny House Talk on a daily basis to see what’s going on, from tiny off-the-grid houses to larger (but still small) houses, and you always do a superlative job of being a compendium for *everything*.
If this community’s not for me, it might be someone else’s dream-come-true. (Not a few commenters above seem to like it quite a bit.) As I said, though, thanks for keeping us all abreast of items of possible interest…this is a marvelous webpage.
Thanks Anna! I appreciate that very much 🙂
I agree! Thank you for your efforts (Newsletter included!) I’m a new comer to the movement, and learning a lot thanks to you. Keep up the good work.
While I can appreciate the concept of a Tiny Home Village where we can park our homes in a community setting that offers cool amenities like a pool, a store, a laundry-mat, I must agree with the majority by scoffing at the rates and the fact that this is RENT, money that goes and never comes back! Perhaps there are those out there who have TH’s as weekend getaways, who would otherwise reside in McMansions during the week, thus wouldn’t blink at tossing 700-bucks into the wind each month. Shall I assume this is the target demographic at Lemon Cove? Have “they” forgotten WHO the core group of TH-ers are and where our values lie? As so many have suggested, a village…a community where we can *invest* some income, have some ownership and perhaps enough land to stretch our arms out wide is in order. I could truly rally behind something like that. But I’m afraid this particular village will only find success with overpaid yuppies who find the Tiny House concept cute and trendy.
But for the core TH-ers whose paradigms were rocked, I think we could get really excited about a co-op, eco-community that won’t break the bank or require “selling out” to the 9-to-5 grind over a plot of land as tiny as our home, that we don’t even own. No, Lemon Cove wasn’t built for us. But that’s ok. Why don’t we, then, gather our own resources and do it the way that fits our values and lives? We’re on new frontiers here and we have the opportunity to be the firsts to do it right. The buck certainly doesn’t stop at Lemon Cove – they’re doing it their way… and we can do it ours 😉
Way, way too expensive. Money out the window, you might as well buy your own land and make the payments. I am surprised this article gives this project such positive hype. Good idea, but only if more affordable. Although I personally would like to see communities that are going more green and health conscious-organic individual and/or community garden plots, green lawn care, solar/wind power/ generators, EMF/RF free (ie cable internet but not wifi, no RF emitting land lines or cell towers), perhaps laundry and small community house.
I revisited this site this morning hoping that The Village had come to it’s senses and lowered the rent. I agree $450+ is far too expensive to pay. I’m trying to downsize my life, make it simpler and I can’t afford this rent and then the extra $100 on top of the that for community fees? What’s the deal?
lori…..I am truly interested in your suggestion. Jenneva, sounds like you are interested in the same way as many TH’s are. Normandy lake and that area near Manchester, TN are beautiful….about 30 mins. or so south of Nashville, TN. I would be interested in investing with others to “own” some land, having the TH development in mind …… homes (whatever the type or design) need to be spaced out at least 200 feet or so for privacy…..just my 2 cents worth.
I had the same idea….to do something like this. I was looking more for a farm house with a bush lot. I’m from Canada and I currently live on almost 2 acres and my municipal taxes are 4200.00 a year.. I live about 1 hour from a major downtown city. I have thought about clearing some of the bush to allow for a tiny home or two. But I ultimately want to do the farm thing with like minded people.
This goes against everything the tiny house movement is all about in my honest opinion. This is actually kind of disgusting. I think BA is hot though. Ha!
Typical for CA., but that’s what it costs. Just not for the folks who like the idea of no mortgage and no large living costs. I’ve been looking for a way to live on my SSI and thought TH might be a way. I used to design and build log homes. I can’t figure out if the TH deal is no debt on a home or a faddish kind of RV. I haven’t seen one yet that meets code (any code) and could be put in a sub-division. In CO you need 35 or more acres, well and septic. Also costs $$$$.
With people from all sorts of economic situations responding its obvious that the views will also very. I lived in a converted school bus for over 16 years. My wife and I raised our 2 children this way. In our circles we were well off. We would be in the desert parked (with our converted school bus)between a $600,000. Prevost coach and a guy in a tent. We all sat at the same campfire and had a very good time. Just a hint of my background. Now I have not only been very interested in Tiny home type communities but am busy organizing a good source for finding them. If you check out my web site “ecobuilthomes.com” and select eco community you will see our ideas. This could include other homes as well. We have always believed in a coop ownership. Our simple beginning is represented here. Now I’m interested in the people who believe the rent suggested was to high. I paid as much as $1000.00 per month in the Bakan oil fields. I also stayed for free in all kinds of places including Army Core of Engineer free camp grounds. (we rarely paid for a spot to park when we were living in our Bus). My question is what is an acceptable price to pay for a lot with all the services needed? I would also expect there to be a value placed on the provisions provided say a laundry facility and showers if your Tiny Home didn’t require hook ups. I understand your negative response, lot rent always seems to high but here’s your chance to provide some very positive feed back for future Tiny Home community developers and occupants. By the way Great site!!!!
Wow. This is really exciting. My chicken skin has chicken skin!
Nice idea, but too expensive. For that much a month, I could BUY a piece of property and put a park model on it. Yeah, that’s still a mortgage, but at least it would be investing in my own property and not someone else’s.
What you are describing as what most of you would find acceptable sounds like a form of Co-housing. Not Co-op Housing. Not Condominium housing. Co-housing is a form of housing that has begun in the US and Canada. Someone who lives in co-housing in California came to Vancouver, BC to speak. There are several in the Vancouver area, some in the city, some in the surrounding areas. Google co-housing and you will see how the concept works. It can easily be adapted to tiny houses on land with space and greenery for privacy. Everyone gets what they can afford. It’s purchased, so no rent. No required monthly costs. It is a great solution for a community.