This is Rich the Cabin Man’s extra-long tiny house on wheels! Now here’s a tiny house on wheels that more folks might be open to.
To me, it’s like a breed between a Park Model and a Tiny House. Most park models are wider than 8’6″ so you need a special permit to tow it. But not this one. Rich Daniels built it at just the right width so you can still tow it yourself.
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A Big Tiny House by Rich’s Portable Cabins
Images: Rich Daniels
Park Model-like Tiny House Breed
This little cabin is 8′ x 34′ so a total of about 272 square feet of space without including the loft living space. It sits on a 3 axle trailer so it’s definitely strong enough to support the home and everything you’d want to put in it.
Interior with Big Windows
Bathroom
Building a House on a Trailer
If you’re curious as to how this all works (how to build a stick built house on a trailer) I highly recommend this book.
Kitchen
Safe Staircase to Loft
Loft
Spacious Loft to Sleep In
Floor Plan
Images: Rich’s Portable Cabins
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Would you build a cabin on a trailer this long?
How do you feel about a longer than a normal cabin on wheels? Is it something that you’d do when building tiny or would you stick to the more commonly seen on the Internet 18′ to 20′ long builds? For me, I’d go with one of these long cabins since I really wouldn’t be moving it often and I’d definitely get use the extra space inside. How about you?
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Alex, is the price of $21, 000 the price of this particular home or the starting price of the builders product. If it is and by the thought to the floor plan, I can only assume excellent quality in construction. If I am correct this is one hell of a deal. For anyone living full time mobile then this builder nailed it good even for the seniors with that stairway to the loft. I am NOT being two faced, this impresses me. If what I am sassuming then it would most definitely be worth the price of a good rig to haul it. I can’t wait to read further comments on this.
Not sure Ralph, and my bad for late reply but I doubt that it’s only $21k for this!
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WOW!! Now that is a tiny house I could live in. Love the stairs, and the fact it has room to move around in. For folks who work at home, are older and home much of the day, this is a godsend design.
Great design. I am currently thinking of a similar tiny house. It would be 10′ wide and 30′ long. It would be on concrete piers instead of a trailer. This article gives some great pictures and ideas of the possibilities!
I have been waiting for a looooong time for someone to have the guts to do an expose (as it were) of this company! It really is, I think, a much, much more ‘sane’ version of tiny, that probably a lot more people could embrace. Especially if you have a family of more than two members, want to have friends over, or are even a couple with hobbies. I love the whole tiny house movement, but I think it’s a reaction to a problem (or many problems, really), and as is often the case with reactions, I think it started out by going too far for mainstream folks to embrace the solutions/answers proposed. Tiny is nice. But if you’ve got to keep two or three sheds, or can never have family spend the night, then for most, it’s TOO tiny.
I stumbled onto Rich’s cabins a long time ago, and was wowed by the spacious lofts and interior designs, small but spacious looking as they are. I’ve been thinking almost ever since that if many of the tiny house movement fans ever actually could hear about the company and lay eyes on the plans and pictures, they’d agree that for most, and especially for those who can’t do ladders, this is really one of the most realistic solutions to be seen, right now. It does not look like an rv. It looks like a cabin on wheels. It’s small… but something a lot more people could probably live in.
Kudos to this blog(writer) for having the gumption to bring the company to light. If more tiny house writers would have the guts to post about something just a smidge bigger than a mailbox, without feeling like traitors to the cause, I’ll bet a lot of folks would love to know about these, that otherwise wouldn’t.
A.M – I’ve stumbled upon them too, ages ago! And I’ve conversed with Rich several times on a myriad of ideas, and he’s just…wow, they are *so awesome*. I cannot put into adequate words how great these folks are, and how patient. My husband and I, once we’re done with the military, we plan to get one done, but I wanted to go to them with a U-Haul truck full’ve reclaimed materials. (Wash/Dryer, Dishwasher, AC unit, hot water heater, French enameled stove, etc, etc, OH AND SOME CARRIAGE WINDOWS – yeah, found some lovely ones on Craigslist…) And while they would need all the exact dimensions to include it into the build-plan, they would be happy to do so! Just, I LOVE THESE GUYS. If I was single and the company was an actual person instead of a company – I’d totally marry them, or at least make them have my brain-babies… Okay that sounds crazy/nutso, and I’m not quite that off my rocker, but you get the picture.
A.M., agree with you totally. I am inspired by “tiny” and “minimalist” but probably would be happiest with “small” and “less.” I’m still soaking in every single super tiny house design though, for sure, because the ideas for space saving and multi-use design are just ingenious. But, I’m right with you and really appreciate the slightly larger “tiny” spaces like what Rich is doing. Still a massive downsize for most of us… while still providing enough space for, in my case, multiple large dogs and frequent overnight family visits. And I’m always in love with stairs instead of a ladder.
We are nearly done building an 8.5′ x 34′ “tiny house” so I LOVE the idea! :). We are at $21,000 for our cost, not including labor, so that would be a steal! Love it!
Looks great! I’d be interested in knowing what this weighs, and what is needed to tow it—safely. A class 3 pickup would probably not be enough (ie, Ford F350). You might be getting into “medium duty” or commercial truck sizes to move it; so basically, you need a dedicated truck just for the trailer. A larger fifth wheel trailer can challenge the ability of a seriously heavy-duty pickup, and I would imaging this is a lot heavier. Fifth wheels can run up to 14,000 pounds, dry; loaded, 16k maybe?
These are issues I looked into when I thought about full timing in an RV. The expense of the tow vehicle was the deal breaker for me, and the fact that realistically, a vehicle that size isn’t something you are going to easily use to run out and get your groceries with or do errands or commuting, so you might also need a smaller car for regular use.
Not trying to be negative, but the overall cost of the tow vehicle needs to be factored in when thinking about something this size. It’s nice, and looks very livable. I have a 33′ motorhome and this amount of space is very comfortable for one person.
Alternatively, you could hire a professional hauler when you need to move it (this option seems practical to me—safer too).
more info on trucks: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Truck_classification
You could also just rent a truck when you move your house. Most people don’t move their houses very often, so it seems silly to own a truck just to move your house if you don’t need it for other reasons. Renting a truck would also be cheaper than hiring movers to move your house.
Rich commented on a FB post, and said that a recent one of his came in at 10,000lbs, while most were under that slightly – and went on to state that there’s “under-slung axels/custom trailer” to get the height lower to the ground and strength etc. So, a F250 could pull it at 10klbs mark, or at least the newer ones can.
Way cool! Again, this looks really livable, one of the best designs out there for long-term TH living.
Rhion, I would never try to pull this house with an F250, unless it was just a one-time deal. I’ve known people who tried it with 5th wheels of this size & weight, and the truck just couldn’t handle it. I pulled a 34′ 5th wheel with an F-350, back and forth across the country many times, and never once had a bit of trouble.
Nice house….lots of room IMHO. You could also go greener….instead of a separate car for running errands, how about a 3-wheeled bicycle with a motorized boost to get you up hills? I know they have 2-wheeled versions of these for in-town running around, for about $1000.00 and it would fit inside the house for transport when moving the house down the road. And yes, you could always hire out or rent the big truck for moving the house.
The vertical height in the loft is impressive! Does the whole thing still come in under 13.5″ tall? How much does the whole thing weigh (thinking of what I’d tow it with)?
I should add–and this is a comment on the post above mine too–that if it’s too heavy to tow with what I have, I would just rent a truck, not buy one just to tow the trailer that will sit in one place for many years at a time. It would be nice if I could tow it with my huge, old van (which I drive well under a thousand miles a _year_), but renting a truck would work too.
The overall height is 13′ 6″. I accomplished this by using a custom frame and under-slung axles. The weight of this cabin was roughly 13,000 lb. but a more recent version came in at 10,000 lb. but was not quite as long.
Under-slung axles? I didn’t know that’s what they were called, but I was wondering when someone would do this! Bravo!!
I’ve seen and heard of the other types of trailers so could you please explain what the under-slung axle trailer is? TIA
Deb, there’s nothing to click on to reply to your question, probably because we’re at the limit of indentations, so I hope you get the notification of this. Underslung does not mean quite what I was thinking, but gives a similar effect, to get the suspension parts below the centerline of the wheels, allowing the floor of the house to be lower, effectively giving more vertical room inside without making it go over the maximum allowable height on the outside for towing. I found this page which shows the difference: http://www.tndaxle.com/view.php?id=92
Garth, yes I received your reply and link via my email. Thank you so much for explaining the difference. After reading the difference between the two, now my concern would be the clearance to the road if using the under slung type if wanting to travel with a tiny house…hmmm something to ponder…thank you!
A resounding YES! would be our reply. we are planning to build an 8.5’x38′ on a fifth wheel. with a typical bed over hitch like conventional RVs. galley style kitchen with a full bath between there and the bedroom. a pocket door to the kitchen another to the bedroom. you will have to pass through to get to the bedroom, but we’re OK with that. storage loft above kitchen and bath. open to above in living area. i really like this design and the use of the stairs. it’s one of the reasons we will be on a fifth wheel so we only have a few stairs and can get around the bed to change/make it and stand upright. no crawling on hands and knees for these knees! should be enough to have ample closet/storage space.
I will also have a slightly larger covered porch on the back/front??? 🙂 we will screen it in so that the four felines to enjoy and do not escape!
on demand storage, propane fireplace, all kitchen appliances, stack-able washer/dryer, full size bed, AC, shooting for all LED lighting ($$$ we’ll see), well insulated and very well constructed.
expect the budget to be about $30k for materials plus our very valuable labor 🙂
on the down side…
we all likely will not evade rules about size restrictions that other tiny houses are under in most communities. 🙁 it is not just a shed anymore at this size. and yet, too small for most minimum size requirements to put on foundations. 🙁
but… we’ll build it anyway!!! they just make sense. less utilities, maintenance, cleaning, taxes (we’ll pay some on the land). no mortgage! no brainer!
great home Alex!
I have been a big fan of Rich’s cabins for years. I’m glad to see he is getting more attention. He has been on my short list of tiny home builders because of how practical his houses seem for full time living, especially for people who live in small towns or rural areas without all the amenities that many city tiny house dwellers use.
There also is a blog by a couple who bought one of his houses years ago. I don’t have the bookmark anymore but it talked about how much they loved their house compared to other tiny houses they looked at.
In our county, 200sq ft is the “accessory building” exemption from Building Department permits, approvals and inspections. So for an 8′ wide building, the low-regulation limit is 25′.
But I do prefer the 8′ floor plans that are designed up to the limit.
Hi Bruce
I believe we have a 200 and a 400 exemption depending on if your
urban or rural, however when your on axels its an RV and
is not permanent.
Would I want that or smaller? Depends…if traveling fulltime-like-RV living, then no…same reasons why I don’t pull a trailer or a fifth wheel…need a truck to tow (don’t try to save bucks by getting a minimal truck…too dangerous when towing that weight)…uses more gas than a smaller RV (like my 86 Astro/mini RV) size limitations on some park roads and such.
HOWEVER! I WOULD build something like that if I wanted a permanent house type that looked prettier than an RV at say the land I just bought that has required building permits, etc…could be a way to get around that as energy, water and waste would be self contained. A composting toilet would be ideal.
I live in a 33 foot southwind during the winters at Slab City, and honestly, I get tired of the looong narrow floorplan. Wish I had an RV with Slideouts, that would be ideal.
HEY! How hard would it be to put in slideouts? I’m thinking for that piece of land then could close it up for the winter…
So many great ideas out there! But for active traveling, for me, smaller is better.
I so want to try that Slab City area one winter. I have done AZ a couple of times and LOVED IT this is the last winter I intend to spend in snow up to my kiester, the snow isn’t that deep but my kiester is dragging these days. Are there many tiny houses on trailers there in the winter? I hear it is deadly hot in the summer. (but I do want to meet the characters who do go there)
Are special permits required to transport in terms of the length? I know permits are needed for width and height outside 8.6 x 13.6. . . . What is the height of this structure? I love this design though. I have 3 kids so I am researching in the design of something that could fit us all comfortably. . . but my design has to include a 1st floor bedroom with sleeping space for 3 twin sizers in the loft space. Thanks for your pictures.
Jeneya, this guy (http://www.richsportablecabins.com/) is the builder of the above not-so-tiny-tiny house, and is a wonderful guy. He works with pretty much any sort of spec you have in mind.
Now, here’s the thing – standard US highways will allow 8.5ft wide, 13.5ft tall, and often up to 44ft long, without getting extra permits. Which is a really huge thing. But you have to consider more than just the size in terms of footage, you have to consider how much it weighs if you want to personally transport it. On the other hand, if they bring it to you, usually the permits are under twenty to fifty usd depending upon the state you’re in, the bigger cost would be delivery to you from Oregon, where Rich and his company make the tiny houses.
Honestly, your best bet is to go take a gander at what he’s got up as examples of things he’s done, then contact him with some basic idea of what you want. Rich is a super awesome guy, very reasonable, and just plain ol’NICE all around.
Thanks Rhion
I like the longer home due to the side door access.
Wouldn’t be more cost effective if you hired a pro to tow, instead of buying a truck? Would it be cheaper if you’re going to move 1000 miles twice a year?
Basically that’s fairly universal. If you don’t plan to move a tiny home more than 3-4 times a year, then you shouldn’t bother buying a truck to haul it. For homes that are street legal (under 13.5 feet tall and 8.5 feet wide) you can just get a rental u-haul truck to move site to site if you don’t move your home often. Or, if you have a larger home (like many of Rich’s are) which are above height and width requirements, hiring a professional is also a good way to go. But for those who wish to move their tiny homes frequently, a good old F250 is a good choice to go. (You just don’t use the truck as your primary vehicle).
May be getting harder to do with u-haul. They are pulling hitches from vehicles due to liability issues. There are still lots of other ways though. Other one way rentals, private or commercial haulers. The rv industry uses retired guys to deliver their units with an f250/f350. It will be a minor detail as most won’t move often though.
Well that blows. But I’ve not used Uhaul in years, as I’ve usually had a friend somewhere who would lend me their pickup if I needed to move stuff.
That’s a very cool way to do it…
Unless you’re the friend with a pickup!
🙂
Very true! But I always put in a full tank of gas – or tuck about the equivalent into their (clean) ashtray if they did a lot of help lifting and carrying. Otherwise, it’s however much gas I used, and a big arsed homecooked meal. I always pay friends back with more friendship. And even if I’m dirt poor at the time and they’re helpin’ me out with an emergency, I’ll clean their house/do their laundry, etc. That’s how we used to do things, and how I still do. Thank’um with love and all that.
Rich does outstanding work and I really love his designs. I have spoken to him on several occasions and he is nothing but helpful. Alas I live on the East coast and he is on the west coast so shipping costs are out of this world. But if you are closer to him and want a quality home seriously call Rich! Outstanding workmanship, Outstanding company, Outstanding man.
Actually shipping isn’t bad , check into U ship they quoted me $483 to ship from Rich’s location to VT
what’s wrong with this picture? If you’ve gotten rid of all the stuff and being a slave to it building something like this can only be considered a folly. Might better buy something roadworthy or a mobile home.
No one has a one size fits all life. For you, it would be a folly with the mindset you have. For others, it would be a godsend, and most comfortable for them. To denigrate what works for others, really doesn’t wind up working well for the community. If one wishes to have a tiny home that is seasonally mobile, it is not slavery to it. But, your viewpoint is your own, as you are not walking even a single mile in other people’s shoes.
I agree!, One size does not fit all. My husband and I have downsized and are waiting for our new home to arrive. I have arthritis and climbing a ladder is out of the question and unsafe. We also have a cat and 2 beagles which would not fit well in a classic tiny home. that being said some thing like Rich builds is definitely more well suited to us. I found 2 other builders who do the same work as Rich, one is http://www.nationalclassiccabins.com/ this one may be helpful for people on the East Coast. Harry Cobb is very very helpful and will just about build anything you want, and the other is Gastineau log homes at http://www.oakloghome.com they make a home called LC2G Log cabin to go.
Between the 2 Harry Cobb was able to build exactly what we wanted with everything we wanted inside by working form a little cheaper base price than most and then adding and upgrading from there. For retirees though, living in 396 to 400 square feet is ok. after getting rid of everything there are some memories we found we were unwilling to let go. So check out the 2 I have mentioned and see what you think
For a wonderful, quality Mid-West company, check out NorthparkHomesandCabins.com. They build cabins and wonderful park model homes and recently added a tiny house too.
Kind class license what I need to take it around with me. And what kind of truck would like me to bring around
It very much depends.
If the cabin is under 13.5 feet tall, and 8.5 feet wide, then you don’t need a special permit.
Then, if the house, loaded, is under the 14,000lb mark, a F350 would do the job.
However, if you’re looking at the taller/broader/heavier, then you need as a permit a ‘wide load’ one. Most states will issue something like that for 12-15$. You also then have to plan out your transport route so that you don’t come to any bridges that are too short or narrow.
As for a truck when you get over that 14-16 thousand pound mark, you need a much heavier duty truck. One that is basically dedicated. OR you could rent a U-Haul type utility duty truck if you aren’t planning to move it frequently.
Also, an F350 style truck will haul one of those heavier ones, but only very short distances and ones where there aren’t a whole lot of up/down/steep roads.
To pull over length over width you will need extra insurance and a load signs. The state of montana requires a million dollars in insurance to pull these rigs on there hiways. Other states may not have this as a requirement.
Over hieght is something you really do not want to get into. Utilities and other thing could be involved.
Fines are another thing if you do not bother getting permits.
Tires are another thing to consider on heavier loads and air pressure too. I use ten ply or load range e tires mine are rated at 2840# per tire which will give you over 5600# per axel.
The tiny homes are great other wise.
@RHION or whoever might know!!!
We are thinking of doing a slightly different form of tow-about retirement that would involve an enclosed trailer for a large motorcycle and the smaller pull behind the bike trailer we built and of course the “stuff” you need to go-with–tools etc.
What I am thinking of at this point is using a mini-van or an SUV to tow this around and drop it off and do week or so long bike trips. That said–I have to do some research into a vehicle I can get in/out of (more sadly anon!) and that can TOW this, bike alone weighs 850 lbs; saddle bags; trailer probably weighs about 150 plus whatever we put inside—plus obviously the weight of the enclosed trailer itself.
I don’t think I can get in/out of any pickup we have seen.
WE have towed the bike alone on a Harbor Freight 4×8′ trailer with a Mazda MPV 6 cyl mini van and it was fine on mountains (Green Mountains and Appalachians) Now we have a CR-V and it is—Ok but I would not put any more weight behind her and the last trip someone (wasn’t ME I didn’t do it!) left the AC on going thru a high pass and–no more AC!
So–here’s the other thing. I am short. And I am handicapped—I have a lower left leg amputation and right leg damage so I cannot climb=—to get on the bike I use a step stool! I either need something with the height of the CR-V or a mini-van or possibly an SUV with running boards and we have modified a step stool that helped me with a different vehicle.
BUT-=-what can these things tow IN THE REAL WORLD? Some sites say one thing some say another the Mfgr’s don’t really want you to tow ANYTHING and the sales people will try to dissuade you from towing because—RESALE VALUE! Well I am looking to DO something with this not worry about resale.
Anybody’s thoughts or experience on this will be greatly appreciated!
Comet,
I saw a jeep Cherokee that can tow 6.500 lbs. which really shocked me, that’s a lot of weight, so if your tiny was not too heavy the Cherokee might be the answer? just sayin’.
NOW THAT’S A house !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Glad you like it Hunter!
This is an excellent house, particularly for long term, however it is more appropriate for a foundation than putting it on wheels.
What a great idea! A foundation. It is rather large to be towing down the road. I wouldn’t do it; too dangerous. I’d have to hire a professional to move it.
The idea to put in a foundation on some land, have this brought to the site, and then lifted onto a foundation for permanency really appeals to me. Probably more cost effective than a site-built cabin, at least one I’d want to live in.
Anyone have educated comments on this idea? I sure would like to know…
I’m seeing 15 minutes to clean the house going to upwards of 15 minutes to clean the house. Too big with too much to clean and maintain. And what about moving it? Professional license or professional movers?
I just wanted to point out to people that an oversize load permit really isn’t that big of a deal. In Washington state, I helped my dad move his airplane that still had the tail on it that was 10’6″ wide. We needed an oversize load permit, but you just go online, spend $10 and print it out, It’s good for a 3 day window of moving it and there was no CDL required.
Once you get over 11′ or 12′ then you start needing pilot cars, so that’s where it starts getting pricey.
These laws may vary from state to state, and there may be restrictions on bridges and tunnels, etc but I encourage people to look into their states oversize load restrictions before ruling out building something wider than 8’6″
Great design for full time living. So many Tiny Homes are TOO tiny!
I would make a few modifications: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10206136370521051&set=p.10206136370521051&type=1
hi , I would really like to see more tiny houses like Rich’s . how about some plans??? thanks deb
All that space and no bathtub? What a missed opportunity!
Now this is much more liveable for many elderly, but I am still not going to have stairs OR a ladder. For the same reason, I would not want a bathtub, either. They are both just too easy to slip and fall from, and broken hips are no fun at all. I have enough trouble getting out of my recliner; a bathtub is impossible, and they use way too much water anyway. For that reason, we are looking at having a 35 ft. gooseneck trailer that will give us a real lower level bedroom and a real kitchen. I intend to have the gooseneck area be a large pantry to hold not only food, but all 11 of my countertop appliances to use in a 3 sided kitchen, and our combo washer/dryer. The appliances allow me to cook in a way I could not manage otherwise due to physical limitations. We’ve already been shopping for an F-350, and will most likely buy a used one. For us, living in this size home represents comfort and safety while allowing us much more freedom than we have now. We will be attending the Super RV show in Tampa a week from today to see the Escape Traveler XL especially, but I have already drawn the floorplan that I want. We could even go to 12 ft. wide, as that won’t intimidate my hubs, who many years ago drove 18-wheelers for a while. (Me – the F-350 intimidates all by itself, and I’ve driven motor homes, ambulances, flatbed trucks, and I hold a pilot’s license!) We intend to travel for an extensive period of time in order to find a permanent parking place. It takes only moments to get a wide-load permit I’m told, and should not be a deterrent for anyone.
Excellent, Love the space and windows. Well designed.
You know Alex, when you first brought up the subject of building on larger (semi) type trailers I was not on board with the concept. I was building a 35′ frame out of mobile home I-beams. UNTIL……I found a 1989 47-foot low boy flatbed for $2000. How could I say “no” to such a find? There is absolutely no structural comparison between the two. I’m about 3/4 of the way to stripping it down to the massive I-beam and C-channel frame. It’s got two dual wheel axles with 15″ low boy tires. I’m fully on board now. With weight being a non-issue now, the sky is the limit for self sustainability, like large water storage capabilities with rainwater collection. What intrigues me the most about Rich’s Park Model is the shallow sloped roof design. I had settled on a shallow sloped “shed” style roof with the assumption this would give me the most headroom in the loft, but Rich’s double slope appears to give overall more room. What are your thoughts? Tiny Home? Nay! Park Model! A Rose By Any Other Name Would Smell As Sweet.
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Wake up and smell the roses.
For anyone interested in larger Park Model homes, states where there are no laws regulating them, how to register them with a VIN etc., check out the .pdf’s here:
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TJ
This is perfect for me. No ladders. Nice open space and bigger loft is sweet. Oh I can’t to buy one in the future. I am keep open on this plan. Very Good Work.
This is a great house with lots of useful space. I particularly love the bath arrangement, and the kitchen is very organized. We are seeing more and more steps in tiny houses as opposed to ladders. These steps are incorporated seamlessly in this design with no slip carpet. Good idea! Love this!
I keep looking for PLANS on how to build pushout /slideout/bumpout that are like Rich Daniels , ones that require no motors ; that you push out and push in . Does anyone have these????
In the long run 8′ might feel a bit like a train car, but the addition of a pair of slide outs in the bedroom and the living area would much improve this.
Perfect for traveling and good designing. Nice to have a house like this. Thanks for sharing.